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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-living/tucson-lets-talk-toilets/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggestion, Kurt. Perhaps I didn&#039;t make myself clear. I&#039;m buying a new house and I really don&#039;t plan to replace perfectly good brand-new toilets. Just wanna find soft seats fitting this shape. Oh, well, perhaps I&#039;ll just get one for the toilet I use the most even if it&#039;s not a perfect fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestion, Kurt. Perhaps I didn&#8217;t make myself clear. I&#8217;m buying a new house and I really don&#8217;t plan to replace perfectly good brand-new toilets. Just wanna find soft seats fitting this shape. Oh, well, perhaps I&#8217;ll just get one for the toilet I use the most even if it&#8217;s not a perfect fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-living/tucson-lets-talk-toilets/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kurt,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you sure you want to give out those email addresses LOL they might be inundated with requests for locations for soft toilet seats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For me personally, I would never put a low flow toilet on a old cast iron system.  I helped install and build them when I was younger and I know how rough those old style pipes are inside.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also know what kind of mess it creates if you plug one of those pipes and have it back flow.  I can think of other ways to conserve water usage if you are living in a home with 50 year old cast iron pipes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for doing the research.  I&#039;m serious about passing the information to the county because they have suspended the program for those reasons provided.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Are you sure you want to give out those email addresses LOL they might be inundated with requests for locations for soft toilet seats.</p>
<p>For me personally, I would never put a low flow toilet on a old cast iron system.  I helped install and build them when I was younger and I know how rough those old style pipes are inside.</p>
<p>I also know what kind of mess it creates if you plug one of those pipes and have it back flow.  I can think of other ways to conserve water usage if you are living in a home with 50 year old cast iron pipes.</p>
<p>Thanks for doing the research.  I&#8217;m serious about passing the information to the county because they have suspended the program for those reasons provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kurt,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is based on the Recent article link above and the suspension of the program by the county because of the possible clogging of the sewer lines and the solids being left in the pipe and causing plugs and destruction of the pipes.&lt;/p&gt; Remember we aren&#039;t talking about current cast iron piping, we are talking about pre 1960 pipes that have been in use for almost 50 years.  Not modern day cast iron piping.
&lt;p&gt;The article is the basis.  So maybe your authorities should get in touch with the county.  They are the ones that suspended the program.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>It is based on the Recent article link above and the suspension of the program by the county because of the possible clogging of the sewer lines and the solids being left in the pipe and causing plugs and destruction of the pipes.</p>
<p> Remember we aren&#8217;t talking about current cast iron piping, we are talking about pre 1960 pipes that have been in use for almost 50 years.  Not modern day cast iron piping.</p>
<p>The article is the basis.  So maybe your authorities should get in touch with the county.  They are the ones that suspended the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Bramstedt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Bramstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well first I want to respond to &quot;Concerned.&quot;  There are about 100 toilets on the EPA Watersense toilet list.  I am sure you can find one that has a shape you like.  Also, go to www.cuwcc.org, click on products, then on the left click on toilets, and get a copy of the MaP toilet test report.  The MaP report has about 800 tested toilets with their flush performance.

Dave, I forwarded you article on low flow toilets and cast iron pipes to the two leading people in water conservation and toilet testing, Bill Gaulley (bill@veritec.org) and John Koeller (koeller@earthlink.net.  Bassically they said there is no data to support the claim that you should not install a &quot;low flow toilet&quot; in a home with cast iron piping. What data do you have to support that from a third party testing agency?

Now if the issue was pipe slope, I think there would be more credibility to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well first I want to respond to &#8220;Concerned.&#8221;  There are about 100 toilets on the EPA Watersense toilet list.  I am sure you can find one that has a shape you like.  Also, go to <a href="http://www.cuwcc.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cuwcc.org</a>, click on products, then on the left click on toilets, and get a copy of the MaP toilet test report.  The MaP report has about 800 tested toilets with their flush performance.</p>
<p>Dave, I forwarded you article on low flow toilets and cast iron pipes to the two leading people in water conservation and toilet testing, Bill Gaulley (bill@veritec.org) and John Koeller (koeller@earthlink.net.  Bassically they said there is no data to support the claim that you should not install a &#8220;low flow toilet&#8221; in a home with cast iron piping. What data do you have to support that from a third party testing agency?</p>
<p>Now if the issue was pipe slope, I think there would be more credibility to that.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Dave, I wasn&#039;t looking forward to the low flow toilets to begin with and today discovered that they seem to have irregular shape. They&#039;re neither standard, nor elongated. I mean, the shape is OK and doesn&#039;t bother me one bit. What bothers me is that I haven&#039;t seen any soft seats on the market fitting this shape! My tooshie has been accustomed to soft seats for years and they can&#039;t be taken away from me! ;-) Perhaps I can order them somewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Dave, I wasn&#8217;t looking forward to the low flow toilets to begin with and today discovered that they seem to have irregular shape. They&#8217;re neither standard, nor elongated. I mean, the shape is OK and doesn&#8217;t bother me one bit. What bothers me is that I haven&#8217;t seen any soft seats on the market fitting this shape! My tooshie has been accustomed to soft seats for years and they can&#8217;t be taken away from me! <img src='http://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Perhaps I can order them somewhere&#8230;</p>
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