Comments on: Tucson Water Recirculating System http://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/ & What it is like living in Tucson Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:34:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Davehttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-12959 Dave Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:40:03 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-12959 Victor, It would appear he is/was the post was written in 2007. No way of knowing if he is still with the company. Since the company is a distributor and not the manufacturer I thought there was value in the information and we could all do review searches for ourselves. Dave Victor,

It would appear he is/was the post was written in 2007. No way of knowing if he is still with the company. Since the company is a distributor and not the manufacturer I thought there was value in the information and we could all do review searches for ourselves.

Dave

]]> By: Victorhttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-12958 Victor Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:22:15 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-12958 Tony, are you associated the Hot Water Lobster company? I clicked on your name to check your profile and it redirects me to the Hot Water Lobster website. Suspicious review. Clarification would be helpful. Thanks. Tony, are you associated the Hot Water Lobster company? I clicked on your name to check your profile and it redirects me to the Hot Water Lobster website. Suspicious review. Clarification would be helpful. Thanks.

]]> By: David Smithhttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-609 David Smith Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:34:38 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-609 Tony, Thanks for sharing the information and links. The fact you don't need electricity makes this unit more versatile than the other. Tony,

Thanks for sharing the information and links. The fact you don’t need electricity makes this unit more versatile than the other.

]]> By: Tonyhttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-608 Tony Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:25:38 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-608 I found a product that eliminates the normal setbacks of a recirculation pump. The Hot Water Lobster instant hot water valve is the best product on the market! I am a plumber for Sears and Lowe's and I specialize in hot water heaters. I've had a Hot Water Lobster for 2 years now and recommend it over any other system! I've had a recirculation system in my home for 8 years. For the first 6 years I went through 2 pumps! They were costly, noisy, and did not last nearly as long as I hoped. I did some research and found The Hot Water Lobster which is pump free and creates no noise. In my opinion it's a steal at $179.95! This wonderful unit saves water, energy, and time! All you have to do is install the Hot Water Lobster under the sink farthest form your water heater and you'll have instant hot water throughout your entire home. It saves a lot of water that's normally wasted down the drain while waiting for hot water. The company I am contracted by now offers the Hot Water Lobster to all of our customers! We have installed nearly 100 of these units with only positive results! It has a 10-year warranty, and is very easy to install. It takes me 5 to 10 minutes. You can't beat this product! Check out the testimonials at their site: www.hotwaterlobster.com I found a product that eliminates the normal setbacks of a recirculation pump. The Hot Water Lobster instant hot water valve is the best product on the market! I am a plumber for Sears and Lowe’s and I specialize in hot water heaters. I’ve had a Hot Water Lobster for 2 years now and recommend it over any other system! I’ve had a recirculation system in my home for 8 years. For the first 6 years I went through 2 pumps! They were costly, noisy, and did not last nearly as long as I hoped. I did some research and found The Hot Water Lobster which is pump free and creates no noise. In my opinion it’s a steal at $179.95!

This wonderful unit saves water, energy, and time! All you have to do is install the Hot Water Lobster under the sink farthest form your water heater and you’ll have instant hot water throughout your entire home. It saves a lot of water that’s normally wasted down the drain while waiting for hot water.

The company I am contracted by now offers the Hot Water Lobster to all of our customers! We have installed nearly 100 of these units with only positive results! It has a 10-year warranty, and is very easy to install. It takes me 5 to 10 minutes.

You can’t beat this product! Check out the testimonials at their site:

http://www.hotwaterlobster.com

]]> By: Davehttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Dave Tue, 15 May 2007 20:18:46 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-607 Runi, Thanks for the comment and providing valueable information to our readers, I really appreciate your taking the time to let us all learn from your experience and knowledge on this subject. Runi,

Thanks for the comment and providing valueable information to our readers, I really appreciate your taking the time to let us all learn from your experience and knowledge on this subject.

]]> By: Rumihttp://www.tucsonazrealestateblog.com/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/comment-page-1/#comment-606 Rumi Tue, 15 May 2007 16:52:12 +0000 http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-real-estate-blog/tucson-water/tucson-water-recirculating-system/#comment-606 I would agree that the placement of water heaters could be better. What shocks me even more is the senseless energy wasted from hot water recirculation systems engineered without regard to efficiency. The easiest available models use a thermostatic crossover valve which gets installed under the sink farthest from the water heater, while a pump gets installed on the water heater. This is convenient in that you don't need an outlet under a sink to power a pump like the Autocirc or Redytemp. But what the manufacturers of these thermostatic valved hot water circulation systems fail to tell the consumer about is that these non-electric thermostatic valves constantly remain open, unless hot water is contacting the valve. That means if there is not hot water in the hot water line and you use your cold water for any reason, causing the pressure in the cold water line to drop, your hot water pipes get purged of any non-hot water because of the higher pressure in the hot water pipes. Because the higher pressure in the hot water pipes is higher then the lower pressure in the cold water pipes, because of the openned faucet or cold water being used, water from the hot water pipes gets passed into the cold water pipes even though you only needed to use cold water. Anytime that water leaves your hot water pipes city water gets put into your water heater increasing your homes gas bill. In other words, with these heater mounted pump systems the home in reality has doubled the duty on the water heater by causing water to be heated even when cold water is used in the home. That's like selling a car that whenever you push the brakes, the cars gonna still consume gas like if the gas pedal is still down. It's easy to see why people are complaining that they have too much hot water in their cold lines, because with these "only close when hot" thermostatic valves, if you open the cold faucet your stuck with receiving mixed hot water line water and cold water line water until hot enough water from the water heater reachs the crossover thermostatic valve causing it to close before you get water exclusively from the cold water line out your cold faucet. Like any other product, you have to ask yourself what is the manufacturer "not" telling me that I need to know. As I discovered with the autocirc in that if your going to install their product you'll need a water softener in your home or else the sensitive rubber components within the autocirc degrade after only a years worth of usage. I would also have liked to know before hand that their systems pump was not going to be powerful enough to deliver hot water faster then my homes cement foundation could absorb the heat from my hot water pipes. After wasting two weekends installing two different systems with unsatisfactory results, I ended up paying the extra money for the more expensive system. I think next time I'll just skip trying to save a few bucks and avoid the guesswork and heartache. I would agree that the placement of water heaters could be better. What shocks me even more is the senseless energy wasted from hot water recirculation systems engineered without regard to efficiency. The easiest available models use a thermostatic crossover valve which gets installed under the sink farthest from the water heater, while a pump gets installed on the water heater. This is convenient in that you don’t need an outlet under a sink to power a pump like the Autocirc or Redytemp. But what the manufacturers of these thermostatic valved hot water circulation systems fail to tell the consumer about is that these non-electric thermostatic valves constantly remain open, unless hot water is contacting the valve. That means if there is not hot water in the hot water line and you use your cold water for any reason, causing the pressure in the cold water line to drop, your hot water pipes get purged of any non-hot water because of the higher pressure in the hot water pipes. Because the higher pressure in the hot water pipes is higher then the lower pressure in the cold water pipes, because of the openned faucet or cold water being used, water from the hot water pipes gets passed into the cold water pipes even though you only needed to use cold water. Anytime that water leaves your hot water pipes city water gets put into your water heater increasing your homes gas bill. In other words, with these heater mounted pump systems the home in reality has doubled the duty on the water heater by causing water to be heated even when cold water is used in the home. That’s like selling a car that whenever you push the brakes, the cars gonna still consume gas like if the gas pedal is still down. It’s easy to see why people are complaining that they have too much hot water in their cold lines, because with these “only close when hot” thermostatic valves, if you open the cold faucet your stuck with receiving mixed hot water line water and cold water line water until hot enough water from the water heater reachs the crossover thermostatic valve causing it to close before you get water exclusively from the cold water line out your cold faucet.

Like any other product, you have to ask yourself what is the manufacturer “not” telling me that I need to know. As I discovered with the autocirc in that if your going to install their product you’ll need a water softener in your home or else the sensitive rubber components within the autocirc degrade after only a years worth of usage. I would also have liked to know before hand that their systems pump was not going to be powerful enough to deliver hot water faster then my homes cement foundation could absorb the heat from my hot water pipes. After wasting two weekends installing two different systems with unsatisfactory results, I ended up paying the extra money for the more expensive system. I think next time I’ll just skip trying to save a few bucks and avoid the guesswork and heartache.

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